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There seems to be some confusion. The video link Tina posted is promoting bell ringing in Spain, not Italy.

I expect that’s how they rang the bells here before the 17th century

For those interested a recently published House of Lords report on Intangible Cultural Heritage

https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/43438/documents/216057/default/#:~:text=AGREEMENT%20REPORTED%20FOR%20INFORMATION,-1.&text=The%20Convention%20for%20the%20Safeguarding,expires%20on%2022%20February%202024.

interesting criticism of DCMS for misinterpreting the convention by assuming that beyond creating a UK inventory it doesn't imply any commitment to actually do anything to safeguard cultural heritage, just to make people in the UK aware, and that it doesn't intend to submit anything to UNESCO (supposedly 'for the first few years').

Yes, Nice point that. Whatever the reason they decide they should join is not as important as them taking the step. DCMS getting on the train is more important, let them realise thereafter how much the tickets cost ;)

Hi All,
The House of Lords has published their recent report into the ICH you can check it out here. https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/43438/documents/216057/default/#:~:text=AGREEMENT%20REPORTED%20FOR%20INFORMATION,-1.&text=The%20Convention%20for%20the%20Safeguarding,expires%20on%2022%20February%202024.

That's the same link you posted a couple of weeks ago. Did you mean to post a different one?

No, John, just making it more widely accessible. I did get a written acknowledgement from DCMS to my written submission so hopefully I'm in the loop as far as future engagement ahead of next steps :smile:

↪Ian Sterritt That's the same link you posted a couple of weeks ago. Did you mean to post a different one? — John Harrison

I discovered Ian's post had been lurking in a moderation queue for about 3 weeks, so released it. Sorry for the delay and probable duplication.

On Intangible Cultural Heritage I just received this update from DCMS....
Hi All,
A short update on implementation of the Safeguarding of Intangible Cultural Heritage Convention, which officially came 'into force' at UNESCO on 8th June.
Election
As you know, a General Election has been announced for the 4th July. There are a lot of restrictions on work during the pre-election period so we've had to put the publication of our consultation response and further discussions on hold, but will be continuing to progress work in the background.
Next steps
We're not able to give any details or expected timings at this stage, but will provide further updates around late summer after new Ministers have been briefed and settled in.
In the meantime, let us know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
August Crocker
DCMS Manchester, 17 Marble Street, M2 3AW

So, it seems UK government is progressing along with first step of signing up to the convention, at least I interpret 'into force' as meaning UK ratification.

Latest Update I have received on Intangible Cultural Heritage....

Hello everyone,
We thought it would be useful to update you on all things Intangible Cultural Heritage or 'Living Heritage.'

Progress has been slower than expected due to the General Election, plus Phil and I have both had to spend a lot of time on some other UNESCO work.

We're nearing a draft of the consultation response - it'll need to go through a few approval / sign-off stages but it will hopefully be published by the end of the year, otherwise early next year. In the background we've been working on how the inventory websites are going to work, looking into data management and considering accessibility for minority languages. All this and more guidance will be published as part of the community and outreach work when we launch the call for nominations to the Inventories (c. spring 2025).

We'll keep in touch!

Thanks,
August Crocker
Policy Advisor - UNESCO, Intangible Cultural Heritage - International Hub
Manchester, 17 Marble Street, M2 3AW.

So we keep an eye open for when they publish the consultation response and see what they plan but anticipate that we should draft a nomination. Anyone know someone with experience of such 'applications' ?
Regards
Ian Sterritt

Has any association/guild made any attempt at safeguarding with respect to the growing phenomenon of private rings where these rings are registered with their association? Rev. Clive Thrower VP Derby Assoc.

this is nothing to do with world heritage status. I suggest you start it as a new topic. That will make it much easier for everyone to keep track, and ensure your question gets read by people interested in it, who might not be interested in the world heritage question.