S Pullin
John Harrison
S Pullin
Jonathan Frye
John Harrison
The question is why you would want the simulated sound to match the odd struckness. If you are trying to train a team to ring those specific odd struck bells as well as possible in a performance then maybe you should, but for any other purpose, notably developing the general capability of a band then I would share Jonathan's view.... how to adjust Abel to match the odd-struckness of the bells. I would urge you not to do this — Jonathan Frye
John Harrison
That's also the primary output of CIREL. It shows the real strike positions of all bells in black with the 'ideal' positions in green behind it, and has the option of adding the line of one or more bells. That is the most useful display for detailed diagnisis of individual issues such as over or under shooting leads and lies, sloppy dodges or places, sluggish turn rounds, and so on. It also has the option to highlight errors above a preset threshold, which can be useful for getting overall impressions, eg more early than late,close hunting up and wide hunting down.[CAS] ... more useful feature was the ability to visualise piece of ringing — Jonathan Frye
That's what CIREL's graphs show and it is certainly of interest. Most people do look at it after each touch. If it looks particularly good overall someone often asks what the actual value was, and there is quiet rivalry among the better ringers to have lower individual errors. Learners (with higher errors obviously) also look at it to learn 'how' they may have done.can also deliver numerical statistics about whether people are consistently quick or slow at each stroke, and what their standard deviation is. We found this to be of relatively little use for a local band — Jonathan Frye
John Harrison
CIREL attempts to identify the method, in which case bells in the wrong place count as (big) errors. If it can't then it just accepts the order they struck.You don't need to tell CAS what you are ringing. ..., The model simply accepts the order in which they rang. — Jonathan Frye
CIREL doesn't struggle, it just generates a result! And the overall error will be correct. The real downside is that errors get moved between bells. Suppose 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 ring perfectly and 3 rings in position 4.1 (ie an error of +1.1 places). 4 will get an error of +1 while 3 gets an error of +0.1.The downside of this mechanism is that with poor ringing where the bells frequently don't ring in the right order the software struggles to cope with it. — Jonathan Frye
Geoffrey Horritt
Roger Booth
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